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Post by Lord Belric Blackfort on Aug 2, 2016 18:03:44 GMT
Violet arrived in her travelling attire, trying not to blush with embarrassment at appearing with her old horse, which was too old and too tired for hunting. Unfortunately, she had no other mount. Did Violet decided, all by herself, to have an old dying horse?
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Post by Tim of Raventree on Aug 2, 2016 18:13:29 GMT
Violet arrived in her travelling attire, trying not to blush with embarrassment at appearing with her old horse, which was too old and too tired for hunting. Unfortunately, she had no other mount. Did Violet decided, all by herself, to have an old dying horse? No, this is her horse from Harroway's Town when they could only afford an elderly mount (I mentioned the horse in at least one other thread). I was not aware she was able to afford a proper lady's palfrey as yet.
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Post by The Gambler on Aug 2, 2016 18:16:50 GMT
From the wiki and I'm fairly certain in multiple board descriptions: "The surrounding lands subject to Harrenhal are actually some of the richest and most fertile in all of Westeros, being located in the watersheds of both the Trident River and Gods Eye lake."
So, yes, based on the house wealth, there's zero reason you can't have nicer dresses and a horse befitting your station as sister to one of the most powerful high lords in the realm. I thought you were just playing dumb with Violet in the Great Hall, but you do understand how a feudal economy operates, right?
On an entirely separate note, taking a look at the dates, how is Violet going on the hawking trip at dawn on the 11th if she also spoke to Lady Tully in the Sept and walked with Tristan in the Godswood on the same day? Much like a hunt, hawking is pretty much an all day activity. The requirement for posting date in new threads exists for this very reason.
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Post by Tim of Raventree on Aug 2, 2016 18:19:28 GMT
Oh oops. I forgot to check the date. If the hunt is the same day as the other stuff I will delete my post.
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Post by The Gambler on Aug 2, 2016 18:20:41 GMT
Clearly stated in the opening post that it's the morning after the feast, not to mention posted the date...
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Post by Tim of Raventree on Aug 2, 2016 18:22:32 GMT
And yeah, I know how feudalism works but I am not sure that Violet does. She wasn't raised to it, after all, and her education focused on ladylike and spiritual matters.
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Post by Tim of Raventree on Aug 2, 2016 18:31:44 GMT
Dave, for the record, Violet is going shopping ASAP now I know there is money to do it
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Post by The Gambler on Aug 2, 2016 18:44:41 GMT
This should help: breakthecurse.proboards.com/thread/89/moneyDress would be considered Noble's Garb. Well within your means. I think it's safe to assume that after the lord paramounts (excluding Greyjoy and possibly Stark) and the lords with port cities such as Hightower or Royce and the lords with silver and gold deposits such as Serrett and Lefford, the lords of Harrenhal are the wealthiest. They have more vassals than the majority of high lords, and some of the most fertile lands, which was worth it's weight in gold in medieval society. They're certainly in the top 10 and definitely the wealthiest high lords in the Riverlands by a fair margin, with Frey as their closest rival in that regard. The issue is that Harrenhal is an economic sinkhole that's difficult to man, heat, and repair while making a profit. Even so, you all can certainly afford the finery expected of any other high lord, within reason. If you don't look the part at this point, it's by choice.
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Post by Ethan Flatrivers on Aug 2, 2016 18:47:48 GMT
I think we all assumed two months of their knights massacring each other on the tail end of a half decade of war had sort of emptied the war chest.
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Post by Tim of Raventree on Aug 2, 2016 18:55:35 GMT
I wish this had been mentioned sooner, because I've rped Violet as struggling to maintain her new social status with limited funds for ages. After all, we have had threads about taking loans from the Iron Bank.
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Post by The Gambler on Aug 2, 2016 18:56:09 GMT
Considering House Lothston seemed to do the bare minimum in the war and there's nothing to really spend gold on when the keep was at war with itself, it's not as if you're impoverished. You can all thank stubborn child murdering Simon Whent for that, as most folks probably would have emptied the treasury and bailed. Either way, I'm not sure how you took the logical leap that 2 months of infighting would have drained the treasury? So while the infrastructure isn't running at full steam at the moment, you're still better off than 90% of the other Riverland lords.
And the loan was proposed by Belric with the idea of conducting MASSIVE construction efforts, like repairing multiple towers at once. There's a difference between well off and drowning in gold. A Lannister would probably balk at the cost of repairing those towers. A high lord tight on funds and a knight of a gate tight on funds are world's apart. You currently have something like 3,000 gold in the vaults and that's after shelling out a fair chunk of coin to build a port and quarry. Most peasants wont have a single gold dragon to their name in their entire life and a proper noble's garment costs less than half a gold piece. All this information is stated plainly in information threads by the way, which seem to continue to go unread.
So to sum up: You are not poor! You have essentially just won the lottery. Hoster can literally afford to drown himself in whores if he wants to. If you can afford to arm and armor 100 guardsmen, you can afford some new clothes. The constant comparison to the Beverly Hillbillies I've been making since the beginning of the game really should have tipped you off.
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Post by Lord Belric Blackfort on Aug 2, 2016 19:06:12 GMT
Come on Violet. Would you get some decent cloths and a horse that isn't on it's last leg already? You're embarrassing the family.
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Post by Tim of Raventree on Aug 2, 2016 19:21:20 GMT
Ok, point made. Let's just move on.
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Post by The Gambler on Aug 2, 2016 19:34:37 GMT
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Post by Barley on Aug 2, 2016 20:13:53 GMT
It was also stated by the King that we had some of the richest lands in the kingdom
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